Saturday, March 9, 2024

Not All Ported Boxes Produce Flabby Bass!


You've heard this: A ported box will never be as tight as a sealed box. The fact that the group delay is so much larger tells you everything you need to know! With a sealed enclosure you get closer to zero group delay!

So while it's true that a ported box will have more group delay than a sealed box, you can design a ported box so the group delay is imperceptible. In other words, since you don't sense it, the ported box will sound just as tight as a sealed box.

In this blog post, we'll talk about what group delay is, why it happens, and why group delay is larger in a ported system. We’ll also discuss some findings from “back in the day” where engineers smarter than me unlocked acceptable group delay numbers!

Let's jump right in:

Wikipedia has this to say about Group Delay:

Group delay describes the time shift of the envelope of a wave packet, a "pack" or "group" of oscillations that travel together, centered around one frequency.

These delays are usually frequency-dependent, which means that different frequency components experience different delays. As a result, the signal's waveform experiences distortion as it passes through the system. This distortion can cause problems such as poor fidelity analog audio…

In other words, group delay is when a signal is distorted through a time shift. This time shift in a subwoofer system happens because air compresses and rarefies. This compression and rarefication happens in a sealed box, too. It’s just that adding a port adds another mass of air to compress and rarefy, which adds complexity.

How does this manifest as distortion? Think about the natural frequency and harmonics generated by plucking a bass guitar. Some of the sounds are going to arrive in your ears later than others. In the case of a sealed enclosure, the lowest frequency arrives last. In the case of a ported enclosure, The frequency centered around port tuning arrives at your ears last.

So how do we control group delay in a ported enclosure? We make sure port tuning and enclosure volume are a good fit for the driver.

But let’s understand something: just because the group delay in a ported enclosure is higher than the group delay in a sealed enclosure, that does not mean your ears can discern it. There is a threshold of audible group delay, and this threshold increases as frequency drops. At 60hz, the threshold of audible group delay is eleven and a half milliseconds. At 50hz, the threshold of audible group delay is thirteen milliseconds, at 40hz, the threshold is 15ms, at 30hz the threshold is 18.5ms, and at 20hz are 25ms.






Controlling Group Delay

The tuning frequency will affect group delay. If we maintain enclosure volume and increase tuning frequency, we will increase group delay.

Increasing enclosure volume will also increase group delay. The opposite is also true. Decreasing ported enclosure volume will also decrease group delay.

Common Mistakes and Solutions

The biggest mistake you can make when you design your subwoofer box is tuning for big SPL centered around one frequency. These will have a distinct ring and a lot of perceptible group delay. Okay, this is only a mistake if you’re building a box for music. If you’re building a one-note wonder for SPL trophies, group delay isn’t an issue. We don’t care about group delay if you’re burping for trophies with limited power.

Another mistake is using a prefabricated ported box whose specs are unknown. Some of these have a relatively high tuning frequency to maximize output. The high frequency will blow past the audible threshold at the high frequency and produce bad sound. This is likely the source of the myth that ported enclosures sound bad.

The easiest way to minimize audible group delay is to use an enclosure volume and tuning recommended by the driver manufacturer. They know the product better than we do, that’s for certain. They also don’t want their audience to say “Yeah, I used their enclosure specs and it sounded awful.” because the next sentence would be something like “Go with another subwoofer driver”

While I want everyone to experiment on their car audio journeys, I do want to point out that people smarter than you and I have provided some guidelines for easy success. In the case of a tight-sounding ported enclosure that romps while sounding as tight as a live acoustic performance, we can have our cake and eat it, too. Just keep the group delay within acceptable guidelines. Remember that acceptable group delay thresholds, measured in milliseconds, will increase as frequency drops and that increasing enclosure size or raising tuning frequency (or both) in our ported enclosures will increase group delay. Conversely, reducing enclosure volume or lowering tuning frequency will reduce group delay. And we can model group delay within WinISD.


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Sunday, July 9, 2023

Dev update: made changes to the site that broke it.

I apologize for some inconvenience. I changed node runtimes on google cloud. It's having trouble with one of my packages.

Fixed!!!

Friday, July 7, 2023

Car Audio On Amazon Prime Day 2023!

Prime Day 2023 is July 11 and July 12!

Amazon loves to hype up Prime Day. And we at Subwoofer.Tools love a good deal!

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Keep in mind these deals will change! Check back often!

Shortcut to all car audio prime day deals!!!

Prime Day Amplifier Sale!

Prime Day Receivers!

Prime Day Speakers!

Prime Day Subwoofers!

Update July 12 1:00pm:

Kicker VK6 6awg wiring kit

Kicker ST7MR SPL Midrange

Update July 12 9:30am:

Pioneer TSA682F speakers!

Pioneer TSA692F speakers!

Pioneer TSA462F speakers!

Pioneer TSD69C speakers!

Pioneer AVH-1550NEX WITH CARPLAY!!

Update July 11 4:00pm:

Memphis Audio VIV3000.1V2 Monoblock subwoofer amplifier

Update July 11 2:00pm:

Kicker PXA-4004 amplifier at PRIME PRICING!

Dual Electronics 7 inch CARPLAY

Memphis Audio M71512 M7 Series 15 inch component subwoofer

Update July 11 1:30pm:

Jensen J1CA7 double din CARPLAY at PRIME PRICING!

Update July 11 12:00pm:

PIONEER TSD10D4 Subwoofer! Ten Inch Pioneer Subwoofer!

Update July 11 9:30am:

NVX VAD11005 5 channel amplifier

NVX VSP69KIT 6x9 V-Series 2-Way Component Speaker System with 25mm Silk Dome Tweeters

NVX NSP68 2-Way N-Series Coaxial Car Speakers with Silk Dome Tweeters

NVX XSP65KIT, 600W Peak (200W RMS) 6.5" X-Series 2-Way Component Speaker System with Carbon Fiber Cones and 25mm Silk Dome Tweeters

Jensen CDR 171 Flip Out LED Screen CD/DVD Player (Kick it OLD SCHOOL)

Update July 11 9:00am:

Rove Dash Cams and Memory Cards!

Atoto S8 Lightning Deal!

Original Post:

We don't know what Amazon has in store for us on Prime Day

We know they leave us hints! 

When I clicked through the Prime Day link in my Amazon app, Amazon said I should follow certain brands. Those brands may have great deals!

The list of suggested brands included Pioneer and Sony. I was PUMPED like I had Real Ultimate Power! If you're in the market for a car audio upgrade, it's hard to beat Pioneer and Sony! 

So here are links to Amazon car audio categories filtered for Pioneer and Sony. 

Hopefully, they put some of these items on sale!

Pioneer Head Units

Pioneer Amplifiers

Pioneer Speakers

Pioneer Subwoofers

Sony Head Units

Sony Amplifiers

Sony Speakers

Once the item goes on sale, it's in a "flash sale" mode, so you must act fast! You'll want to check back a few times during the day!

What's the point of having great sound if your car is dirty? Chemical Guys is having prime day specials on Amazon! Check out the deals they have!!!

Finally: Seasoned Prime Day veterans know about the massive price reductions on Amazon-branded products. These products include, but are not limited to:

Echo Devices and Bundles

Echo Show Devices and Smart Home Bundles

Ring Doorbells, Cameras, Alarms, and Bundles

Fire Tablet bundles

FireTV 4k Streaming Devices

FireTV Smart TVs

Blink Smart Home Security Cameras and Doorbells

Eero Wifi Routers and Systems

If you've been eyeballing these products, now is the time to check them out!

Sunday, April 16, 2023

Database Update: Rockford Fosgate P3 Shallow Subwoofers

We added Rockford Fosgate's Punch P3 subwoofers to the database! Design a subwoofer box for your space using a Rockford Fosgate P3 driver.

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Rockford Fosgate P3 Slim 12" Subwoofers

Rockford Fosgate P3SD2-12

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Rockford Fosgate P3SD4-12

Rockford Fosgate P3 Slim 10" Subwoofers

Rockford Fosgate P3SD2-10

Rockford Fosgate P3SD4-10

Rockford Fosgate P3 Slim 8" Subwoofers

Rockford Fosgate P3SD2-8

Rockford Fosgate P3SD4-8

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Database Update: Rockford Fosgate Punch P3 Drivers!

We added Rockford Fosgate's Punch P3 subwoofers to the database! Design a subwoofer box for your space using a Rockford Fosgate P3 driver.

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P3 15" subwoofers

Rockford Fosgate Punch P3D2-15

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P3D4-15

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P3 12" subwoofers

Rockford Fosgate Punch P3D2-12

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P3D4-12

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P3 10" subwoofers

Rockford Fosgate Punch P3D2-10

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P3D4-10

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Database Update: Rockford Fosgate Punch P2 Drivers in the Database

We added Rockford Fosgate's Punch P2 subwoofers to the database! Design a subwoofer box for your space using a Rockford Fosgate P2 driver.

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P2 15" Drivers

Rockford Fosgate Punch P2D2-15

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P2D4-15

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Rockford Fosgate Punch P2 12" Drivers

Rockford Fosgate Punch P2 10" Drivers

Rockford Fosgate Punch P2 8" Drivers

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Thursday, March 30, 2023

Database Update: Rockford Fosgate Punch P1 drivers to the database!

We added Rockford Fosgate's Punch P1 subwoofers to the database! Design a subwoofer box for your space using a Rockford Fosgate P1 driver.

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Rockford Fosgate P1S4-10 Subwoofer

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Rockford Fosgate P1S2-10 Subwoofer

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Rockford Fosgate P1S4-12 Subwoofer

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Rockford Fosgate P1S2-12 Subwoofer

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Rockford Fosgate P1S4-15 Subwoofer

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Rockford Fosgate P1S2-15 Subwoofer

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Thursday, March 16, 2023

Database Updates: Skar SVR Subwoofers to the database!

Update: We've added Skar SVR subwoofers to the database!

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Skar SVR-8 D2

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Skar SVR-8 D4

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Skar SVR-10 D2

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Skar SVR-10 D4

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Skar SVR-12 D2

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Skar SVR-12 D4

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Skar SVR-15 D2

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Skar SVR-15 D4

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Saturday, March 11, 2023

Database Updates: Skar SDR Subwoofers Added to the Box Calculator Database!

We added the Skar SDR series subwoofers to the subwoofer.tools box calculator database! Click the links to get started on your new subwoofer box!

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Skar SDR8 D2

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Skar SDR8 D4

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Skar SDR10 D2

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Skar SDR10 D4

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Skar SDR12 D2

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Skar SDR12 D4

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Skar SDR15 D2

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Skar SDR15 D4

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Skar SDR18 D2

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Skar SDR18 D4

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Wednesday, February 22, 2023

Why does streaming music sound awful in my system?

Why does streaming music sound awful when compared to physical media or a downloaded track? You connect the phone to the stereo, fire up your favorite music streaming service, find your favorite album and push play.

You're disappointed because the musical experience is as flat as the front of my khakis.

The reason it sounds flat is that it has been flattened out. The music amplitude has been constrained to a specific dynamic range. Loud peaks are quieted down and soft passages are pumped up. Streaming services call this "normalization".

Normalization is turned on by default because most of the audience streams from a mobile device to a small Bluetooth speaker or a stock car stereo for background noise.

Which is fine if you just want background noise.

If you're like me and want to experience the music, you need to experience the highs and the lows, the quiet and the loud. You gotta have all of that to really feel the music.

You need to turn off Normalization.

To turn off Normalization, grab your phone. Open your streaming service. Find the settings. Scroll down until you find normalization. Set it to off. 

Now that your streaming service isn't constraining your music, go rediscover your favorite albums all over again.


Monday, February 20, 2023

Why does your calculator produce different results than other calculators?

 


It's been a while since I posted a video. I've been busy. 

Over the summer of 2022 a user of the website reached out to me and asked why subwoofer.tools produced a different set of overall outside dimensions than another online calculator. The user asked which calculator produced the "correct" results.

The good news is, both calculators are technically correct. The best kind of correct. 

In this video, I explain why both calculators are correct, and I also provide a little bit of insight into a new feature I've been working on for the box calculator. Hint: there's a lot of math involved. 

Saturday, May 14, 2022

Can I downfire or upfire that subwoofer? Do the math!



 Not all subwoofers can be upfired or downfired. Some subwoofer drivers need to be mounted on the vertical plane, firing into the room.

Determining this is easy: just make sure the woofer's suspension is strong enough to prevent gravity from pulling the driver down less than 5% linear excursion.

The formula looks like this:

We need to know a subwoofer driver's resonant frequency and Xmax. Resonant Frequency is simply the frequency that the driver will "ring" at. Xmax is maximum linear excursion. Our goal is to not lose 5% of linear excursion.

Example of the formula using a Rockford Fosgate R2D2-12 Prime Subwoofer driver, we can use it for upfire and downfire:


Example of the formula using an early 1990s Rockford Fosgate Punch 12. We should use this one to fire into the room: 


I hope this helps you with your subwoofer design!

Sunday, April 3, 2022

Will my subwoofer work in a Ported Enclosure? Will my subwoofer work in a Sealed Enclosure?

 


What is the Efficiency Bandwith Product?

The Efficiency Bandwidth Product is a computation to determine if a driver can be used in a ported or sealed enclosure. 

If the Efficiency Bandwidth Product is below 50, that driver is best suited to a sealed enclosure.

If the Efficiency Bandwidth Product is above 100, that driver is best suited to a ported enclosure.

If the Efficiency Bandwidth Product is between 50 and 100, that driver will work in both a sealed enclosure and a ported enclosure.

What do we need to know to compute the Efficiency Bandwidth Product?

In order to compute the Efficiency Bandwidth Product, we need to know the driver's Fs and Qes. These are Thiele-Small Parameters you can find either on the spec sheet in your driver's manual, or found on the manufacturer's website.

How do we Compute for the Efficiency Bandwidth Product?

We compute Efficiency Bandwidth Product by dividing Fs by Qes.

Can you give some Examples to solve for Efficiency Bandwidth Product?

Efficiency Bandwidth Product for DS18 EXL-12.2D



Efficiency Bandwidth Product for Pioneer TS-A30S4



Efficiency Bandwidth Product for Dayton Audio Classic DCS305




Thursday, February 10, 2022